Status: CONFIRMED Spoiler
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Quote:
Ino dad: I know! Where Pain's real body is!
Shikamaru: Did you get something?
Ino: What do you mean?
Ino dad: Yeah... When I looked in the head of that guy from hidden rain that Jiraiya-sama caught, he was carrying dead bodies with his friend from the village
(man: we're carrying dead bodies to the highest tower of the village. You know what is in there?)
Shikamaru: Carrying dead bodies?
Ino dad: Yes... You said it yourself earlier, in order to transmit the chakra signals, the receiver should logically be nearby. then... that guy said that among all the towers in hidden rain, it was the tallest tower they were carrying dead bodies to
(Dead body guy: Actually... The rumor is that Pain-sama is dwelling there)
Ino dad: In hidden rain, the rumor is that Pain was inside of that tallest tower. Then that girl appeared as Pain... It was the same girl whose dead body was being carried to that tall tower... It would mean that this tower is the place where they create Pain bodies by embedding those black stakes-like receivers into dead bodies
Shikamaru: So what is the connection with the position of the real body?
Ino dad: To transmit the chakra signals, the most efficient place is... To transmit as far away as possible, he had to be in the tallest tower
Anbu: I see... which means
Ino dad: Pain's real body is on the highest place of Konoha...
Shikamaru: All right! Let's investigate thoroughly tall places
437: What will Naruto do after listening to Pain!? Next, rapid development!!
END
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Inoichi thinks there is a high possibility that Pain is on some high mountain in Konoha.
(because it would make the chakra transfer easier)
Then it's all conservation between Naruto and Tendou.
Pain wishes for peace and justice.
Naruto wishes for peace and justice.
Both have the same target but different means to achieve it.
Finally, the real body Nagato is shown.
Following is the spoiler writer's opinion:
He looks like a skinny Orochimaru, sitting on some four-legged, wheelchair-like thing.
There are a lot of black rods piercing out from his back and his body has a lot of holes/pits.
Konan: Nagato had used up too much chakra.
Nagato, with his mouth bleeding: Peace will arrive soon.
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Status: CONFIRMED Spoiler (French Translation)
Dans ce spoil, Pain parle de paix, de la souffrance, du monde etc. (comme toujours).
Naruto regarde dans ses yeux et il est transféré hors de Konoha.
Pain lui montre certaines choses. Une personne avec le rinnegan, et des victimes.
Pain: "C'est une réponse. C'est..."
Naruto: "Tu rigoles? Tu appelles ca la paix?".
Le père d'Ino dit que Pain est surement en haut d'une montagne près de Konoha, afin de transmettre son chakra correctement.
Naruto & Pain continuent de parler.
Ce que veut Nagato est la paix et la justice.
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Finalement, ils veulent la même chose, mais par différent moyens.
(Beaucoup de blabla qui arrivent bientot)
On voit Nagato..
On dirait un vieux Orochimaru malade... Manque d'originalité.
Il est sur une sorte de fauteuil roulant.
Il a plein de cable sur lui, et des trous.
Konan: Tu dépenses trop de chakra.
Nagato murmure de la bouche.
Nagato: La paix est si proche...
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FIN
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Status: UNCONFIRMED
Pain and Naruto is having a discussion before he's taken away for the kyuubi sealing.
Pain shows Naruto (like Madara showed Sasuke the secret behind Itachi) what, how, when, where this ''peace'' will be at (a tower is shown which could be where Nagato is at),.
Naruto: What's wrong with you, konoha got the finest ninjas... you won't succeed
Pain: ...
and a flash back with Yahiko and Jiraya talking to each other, it says something that Pain looks through Naruto with him and Jiraya talking and can see that Jiraya is talking about one student he had, Yahiko...
after that you will see Nagato and Konan talking to each other in private, ''peace will soon be settled''
by: OM-zaffe
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In my last theory, "When Jiraiya died in his encounter with Pein, was his (Jiraiya) body recovered? We all know that Pein uses corpses or dead bodies. What if Kishi comes up with this (weird and scary but very possible) idea for God/Deva Pain to use Jiraiya's body to fight against Naruto??". This would mean REALLY BIG TROUBLE for Naruto if they become part of the Six Paths of Pain!!
Kakashi and Pain Fight
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Nagato : "C'est mon souhait" (French)
: "Sore wa ore no negai da" (Japanese)
: "This is my wish" (English)
: "Sore wa ore no negai da" (Japanese)
: "This is my wish" (English)
Quote:
Ino dad: I know! Where Pain's real body is!
Shikamaru: Did you get something?
Ino: What do you mean?
Ino dad: Yeah... When I looked in the head of that guy from hidden rain that Jiraiya-sama caught, he was carrying dead bodies with his friend from the village
(man: we're carrying dead bodies to the highest tower of the village. You know what is in there?)
Shikamaru: Carrying dead bodies?
Ino dad: Yes... You said it yourself earlier, in order to transmit the chakra signals, the receiver should logically be nearby. then... that guy said that among all the towers in hidden rain, it was the tallest tower they were carrying dead bodies to
(Dead body guy: Actually... The rumor is that Pain-sama is dwelling there)
Ino dad: In hidden rain, the rumor is that Pain was inside of that tallest tower. Then that girl appeared as Pain... It was the same girl whose dead body was being carried to that tall tower... It would mean that this tower is the place where they create Pain bodies by embedding those black stakes-like receivers into dead bodies
Shikamaru: So what is the connection with the position of the real body?
Ino dad: To transmit the chakra signals, the most efficient place is... To transmit as far away as possible, he had to be in the tallest tower
Anbu: I see... which means
Ino dad: Pain's real body is on the highest place of Konoha...
Shikamaru: All right! Let's investigate thoroughly tall places
437: What will Naruto do after listening to Pain!? Next, rapid development!!
END
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Inoichi thinks there is a high possibility that Pain is on some high mountain in Konoha.
(because it would make the chakra transfer easier)
Then it's all conservation between Naruto and Tendou.
Pain wishes for peace and justice.
Naruto wishes for peace and justice.
Both have the same target but different means to achieve it.
Finally, the real body Nagato is shown.
Following is the spoiler writer's opinion:
He looks like a skinny Orochimaru, sitting on some four-legged, wheelchair-like thing.
There are a lot of black rods piercing out from his back and his body has a lot of holes/pits.
Konan: Nagato had used up too much chakra.
Nagato, with his mouth bleeding: Peace will arrive soon.
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Status: CONFIRMED Spoiler (French Translation)
Dans ce spoil, Pain parle de paix, de la souffrance, du monde etc. (comme toujours).
Naruto regarde dans ses yeux et il est transféré hors de Konoha.
Pain lui montre certaines choses. Une personne avec le rinnegan, et des victimes.
Pain: "C'est une réponse. C'est..."
Naruto: "Tu rigoles? Tu appelles ca la paix?".
Le père d'Ino dit que Pain est surement en haut d'une montagne près de Konoha, afin de transmettre son chakra correctement.
Naruto & Pain continuent de parler.
Ce que veut Nagato est la paix et la justice.
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Finalement, ils veulent la même chose, mais par différent moyens.
(Beaucoup de blabla qui arrivent bientot)
On voit Nagato..
On dirait un vieux Orochimaru malade... Manque d'originalité.
Il est sur une sorte de fauteuil roulant.
Il a plein de cable sur lui, et des trous.
Konan: Tu dépenses trop de chakra.
Nagato murmure de la bouche.
Nagato: La paix est si proche...
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FIN
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Status: UNCONFIRMED
Pain and Naruto is having a discussion before he's taken away for the kyuubi sealing.
Pain shows Naruto (like Madara showed Sasuke the secret behind Itachi) what, how, when, where this ''peace'' will be at (a tower is shown which could be where Nagato is at),.
Naruto: What's wrong with you, konoha got the finest ninjas... you won't succeed
Pain: ...
and a flash back with Yahiko and Jiraya talking to each other, it says something that Pain looks through Naruto with him and Jiraya talking and can see that Jiraya is talking about one student he had, Yahiko...
after that you will see Nagato and Konan talking to each other in private, ''peace will soon be settled''
by: OM-zaffe
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Status: UNCONFIRMED Spoiler
Trans By ?????? on Nf
well, in this spoiler Pain talks about peace, pain, world etc. (his usual stuff).
Naruto looks into his eyes and transfered outside konoha.
It seems pain showing some stuff to him. Landlord with rinnegan, some slaughter.
Pain: "That's an answer. That's..."
Naruto: "Are you kiddin'? You call that peace?".
Ino's dad says Pain is probably on top of a mountain near Konoha, so as to transmit chakra better.
Naruto and Pain continue their conversation
What Nagato wants is peace and justice
What Naruto wants is peace and justice
So they want to go to the same place, they are just using different means
(Lots of talking, don't have time to write, wait for ohana to give the rest)
We finally get to see Nagato.
He looks like a greedy Orochimaru (looks like Kishi has too few different characters)
He's in a kind of wheelchair moving on all fours
He's got lots of rods in his back, and holes here and there on his body
Konan: You're using too much chakra
Nagato's bleeding from the mouth
Nagato: Peace is so close...
END
by: db-z.net
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These are my thoughts:
1. Notice the first page, it says there, "STOLE KAKASHI" - what exactly does this mean?? Does this mean, Kakashi is dead and Pein plans on using Kakashi's dead body as one of the Six Path of Pain???well, in this spoiler Pain talks about peace, pain, world etc. (his usual stuff).
Naruto looks into his eyes and transfered outside konoha.
It seems pain showing some stuff to him. Landlord with rinnegan, some slaughter.
Pain: "That's an answer. That's..."
Naruto: "Are you kiddin'? You call that peace?".
Ino's dad says Pain is probably on top of a mountain near Konoha, so as to transmit chakra better.
Naruto and Pain continue their conversation
What Nagato wants is peace and justice
What Naruto wants is peace and justice
So they want to go to the same place, they are just using different means
(Lots of talking, don't have time to write, wait for ohana to give the rest)
We finally get to see Nagato.
He looks like a greedy Orochimaru (looks like Kishi has too few different characters)
He's in a kind of wheelchair moving on all fours
He's got lots of rods in his back, and holes here and there on his body
Konan: You're using too much chakra
Nagato's bleeding from the mouth
Nagato: Peace is so close...
END
by: db-z.net
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These are my thoughts:
In my last theory, "When Jiraiya died in his encounter with Pein, was his (Jiraiya) body recovered? We all know that Pein uses corpses or dead bodies. What if Kishi comes up with this (weird and scary but very possible) idea for God/Deva Pain to use Jiraiya's body to fight against Naruto??". This would mean REALLY BIG TROUBLE for Naruto if they become part of the Six Paths of Pain!!
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Kakashi and Pain Fightimage by: demonfoxkiba
2. Pa frog??!! Is he dead?? He could be dead!!! Or he will soon be! I think this isn't the last death. I think all of the frogs will eventually die. Maybe not in this Chapter but in the succeeding chapters. This is so BAD!!!
3. The upcoming chapters should be action-packed! Take note that this is SAGE NARUTO vs GOD PEIN and this is all the action to it???? Kishi better come up with a really good climactic plot! More action and more plot development.
4. Inoichi was able to deduct something. Do you have any inputs on this?
Tell us what you think and start any discussions relating to Naruto 436.
4. Inoichi was able to deduct something. Do you have any inputs on this?
5. What do you think will God Pein unravel? Is it some secret between Pein and Jiraiya? Will it be the true power of God Pein?? Will he be telling Sage Naruto how he plans on killing Naruto?? Will it be a flashback on what really happened why Nagato became GOD PEIN?? If next chapter is flashback - JUST DONT MAKE IT DRAGGING!
"If Pain is this strong, imagine Madara" - Agent Secrecy
Tell us what you think and start any discussions relating to Naruto 436.
by: me (Naruto Addict)
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Status: Theories
The frequency was difficult to detect
1) the frequency itself that nagato is using is advanced
2) there's 6 bodies that nagato is controlling (so there might be interference)
Inochi muttered, "drag... bodies"(translation from hissou).. or something like that.
Now wouldnt Inochi have a better way to track down nagato, since 5 of the 6 bodies is down and cannot be controlled or be used?
Or
Assuming that the dead bodies of Pain still do have a connection to Nagato, But nagato can't control them due to the fact that those pains were heavily damaged by naruto's attacks
Maybe those dead bodies bodies, may have a more detectable frequency,(since their not moving)?
With a quick analysis...this is the way i see it.
Shizune says, "pain controls the pain bodies by sending them wave signals," Right?
Now we know a radio station.. the frequency or the signal wave for a certain station is just one, If you change your radio settings to 96.3 Fm, The radio's receive is set to 96.3 FM frequency, correct? (c'mon this is simple knowledge)
Now Nagato is sending several signal waves, example: signal waves for talking, signal waves for moving arms, legs, etc. There are probably hundreds of signal waves for each body.
Thats why the frequency is constantly changing. Cause Nagato is sending a signal wave for deva pain to talk, then sending a signal wave for deva pain to hit, to punch.etc.
Get my point?
If the pain bodies are "immobilized" or cant be used, Then pain has no reason to send a signal wave.. since the "dead" or "immobolized" pain bodies are useless, right?
But they still do have a connection to nagato. Proof. Remember when Asura Pain(or the pain that kakashi killed). Nagato used the summoning pain to summon all the pains. SO yes there is definitely a connection still.
by: TheFlash - MH
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Status: Theories
first of all i cant believe kakashi is gone this sucks and
second the real pein is most likely the 4th hokage because he wants revenge on konoha narutos father for the death of narutos mom which he used her body for to stage his death also i think sasuke and naruto will team up and defeat 4th madara with a fusion move of chidori and resengan which will cause a bomb like it did when the fought at the final valley now wouldnt that be awesome
Any reaction to this? Please post below..
by: Anonymous (Comment # 27 below)
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Status: Theory
pain cant be narutos father because he never had the rinnegan eyes...
also naruto cant be captured, and he knows this...he is stalling and trying to find some info....he has one more clone left....inoichi stated the pain is changing frequencies and thats why he cant trace back the chakra...but i bet i now he thinks if they can get their hands on one of the corpses that has just been defeated they can trace back the chakra frequency and locate pain. i also think that pa frog has put pain and naruto in a genjutsu making him think that he has been stabbed
by: Anonymous (comment# 36 below)
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Status: Theory and Prediction
People still believe that Naruto will lose and get capture? Naruto have just about the same chance of losing this fight and getting capture as he had against Kakazu. This fight was set up for Naruto win, just like the Kakazu fight was set for him. He ain't going to lose to Pein after he just went to train to fight him, what will be the point of the train if he lose and get capture? What will be the point of Konoha protecting him and getting destroy in the process just for him to get capture? What will be the point of Jiraiya dying for him if he is just going to get capture? What is the point of Shizune, possible Pa, and unlikely Kakashi death for him to just get capture? So you real believe that Kishi is going to make all this effort in vain?
Like i have said many times, there are three possible outcome for this fight:
1. Naruto wins.
2. Naruto wins.
3. You guessed right....Naruto wins.
Naruto ain't losing this fight, Pein became a dead man walking 6 chapters ago. Furthermore, what is the point of Pein surviving this fight? For Naruto to have to fight him again? That will be stupid and repetitive. Pein part of the manga is over(almost over), it is Nagato turn. Pein already served his purpose, and it is time for him to end up 6 feet under. Also what is the point of Naruto getting capture when we already know he is not going get the Kyuubi exacted from him? We already know Aka can't exact the Kyuubi until they capture Killerbee. Moreover, the chance of Naruto ever getting the Kyuubi exact from him became 0% ever since Jiraiya revealed that Minato sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto for a reason and that he intended for Naruto to use it to complete "that jutsu".
Also i find it ridiculous that anyone that have read this manga up to this point is actually counting Naruto out already, just go to show some peoples little understanding of what they are reading. If there is one thing that will know about Naruto, it is never out of a fight. Almost every Naruto follow this pattern, in which it seem like Naruto is about to lose and out of nowhere BOOM, through determination pull through and defeat his opponent.
All in all, Naruto ain't losing this fight.
by: knuckleheadedninja
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Status: Theories and Prediction
I can see toward the end of the next chapter after the monologue a determined Naruto still not giving up wrenching his hands free from a shocked Pain. Pain will probably discover that unlike with other ninja, that his disruptive chakra will not be enough to overwhelm Naruto. Due to what he can already endure almost as if it were nothing, while others would easily succumb to it.
Nagato may learn after this fight that his greatest threat does not come from the power of the Kyuubi, but just as Yamato once said, from Naruto's true strength the power of his own chakra.
by: 4ghost
naruto has greatly improved greatly but as of right know deva realm is on a whole other level than the other 5 bodies. the frogs and konoha elite are down. the best the leaf ninja can hope to do now is find nagato's real body, but they will not find him in time to stop pain from taking naruto.
maybe pain monologue will give some help time to arrive, but i doubt it. if team gai shows up they will not be much help, since they are all mainly taijutsu fighters.
naruto's only option is the 9 tails, and calling on the 9 tails would not show naruto's weakness. naruto is hella strong, but he is not on nagato's level yet. he needs the fox right now.
by: chess4
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Status:Prediction
1. Naruto is now gets flickers of Kyubi's chakra.
2. Sage mode goes to the extreme level and pain gets repelled away from Naruto.
3. The last bunshin is released and finally Naruto gets into full sage mode.
4. The bodies are been carried away and Naruto is now mingled with sage+Kyubi chakra.
5. Danzou has been found to be the culprit and he is at the peak of the mountain controlling the PAIN's.
6. Sasuke comes in and find Konoha has been destroyed.
7. He finds pain and see's that and tells Naruto to get out of the way.
8. Secret - Sasuke has found that it was not konoha's order to kill all the Uchiha clan but Danzos.
9. Uchiha Madara comes into the picture with his jitter to kill out the MAIN PAIN.
10. Others try to find out of Danzous whereabout. Kiba with his smell gets the source and all go for Danzou.
....next PAIN in PAIN
by: tappali keestu
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Status: Theories
The frequency was difficult to detect
1) the frequency itself that nagato is using is advanced
2) there's 6 bodies that nagato is controlling (so there might be interference)
Inochi muttered, "drag... bodies"(translation from hissou).. or something like that.
Now wouldnt Inochi have a better way to track down nagato, since 5 of the 6 bodies is down and cannot be controlled or be used?
Or
Assuming that the dead bodies of Pain still do have a connection to Nagato, But nagato can't control them due to the fact that those pains were heavily damaged by naruto's attacks
Maybe those dead bodies bodies, may have a more detectable frequency,(since their not moving)?
With a quick analysis...this is the way i see it.
Shizune says, "pain controls the pain bodies by sending them wave signals," Right?
Now we know a radio station.. the frequency or the signal wave for a certain station is just one, If you change your radio settings to 96.3 Fm, The radio's receive is set to 96.3 FM frequency, correct? (c'mon this is simple knowledge)
Now Nagato is sending several signal waves, example: signal waves for talking, signal waves for moving arms, legs, etc. There are probably hundreds of signal waves for each body.
Thats why the frequency is constantly changing. Cause Nagato is sending a signal wave for deva pain to talk, then sending a signal wave for deva pain to hit, to punch.etc.
Get my point?
If the pain bodies are "immobilized" or cant be used, Then pain has no reason to send a signal wave.. since the "dead" or "immobolized" pain bodies are useless, right?
But they still do have a connection to nagato. Proof. Remember when Asura Pain(or the pain that kakashi killed). Nagato used the summoning pain to summon all the pains. SO yes there is definitely a connection still.
by: TheFlash - MH
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Status: Theories
first of all i cant believe kakashi is gone this sucks and
second the real pein is most likely the 4th hokage because he wants revenge on konoha narutos father for the death of narutos mom which he used her body for to stage his death also i think sasuke and naruto will team up and defeat 4th madara with a fusion move of chidori and resengan which will cause a bomb like it did when the fought at the final valley now wouldnt that be awesome
Any reaction to this? Please post below..
by: Anonymous (Comment # 27 below)
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Status: Theory
pain cant be narutos father because he never had the rinnegan eyes...
also naruto cant be captured, and he knows this...he is stalling and trying to find some info....he has one more clone left....inoichi stated the pain is changing frequencies and thats why he cant trace back the chakra...but i bet i now he thinks if they can get their hands on one of the corpses that has just been defeated they can trace back the chakra frequency and locate pain. i also think that pa frog has put pain and naruto in a genjutsu making him think that he has been stabbed
by: Anonymous (comment# 36 below)
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Status: Theory and Prediction
People still believe that Naruto will lose and get capture? Naruto have just about the same chance of losing this fight and getting capture as he had against Kakazu. This fight was set up for Naruto win, just like the Kakazu fight was set for him. He ain't going to lose to Pein after he just went to train to fight him, what will be the point of the train if he lose and get capture? What will be the point of Konoha protecting him and getting destroy in the process just for him to get capture? What will be the point of Jiraiya dying for him if he is just going to get capture? What is the point of Shizune, possible Pa, and unlikely Kakashi death for him to just get capture? So you real believe that Kishi is going to make all this effort in vain?
Like i have said many times, there are three possible outcome for this fight:
1. Naruto wins.
2. Naruto wins.
3. You guessed right....Naruto wins.
Naruto ain't losing this fight, Pein became a dead man walking 6 chapters ago. Furthermore, what is the point of Pein surviving this fight? For Naruto to have to fight him again? That will be stupid and repetitive. Pein part of the manga is over(almost over), it is Nagato turn. Pein already served his purpose, and it is time for him to end up 6 feet under. Also what is the point of Naruto getting capture when we already know he is not going get the Kyuubi exacted from him? We already know Aka can't exact the Kyuubi until they capture Killerbee. Moreover, the chance of Naruto ever getting the Kyuubi exact from him became 0% ever since Jiraiya revealed that Minato sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto for a reason and that he intended for Naruto to use it to complete "that jutsu".
Also i find it ridiculous that anyone that have read this manga up to this point is actually counting Naruto out already, just go to show some peoples little understanding of what they are reading. If there is one thing that will know about Naruto, it is never out of a fight. Almost every Naruto follow this pattern, in which it seem like Naruto is about to lose and out of nowhere BOOM, through determination pull through and defeat his opponent.
All in all, Naruto ain't losing this fight.
by: knuckleheadedninja
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Status: Theories and Prediction
I can see toward the end of the next chapter after the monologue a determined Naruto still not giving up wrenching his hands free from a shocked Pain. Pain will probably discover that unlike with other ninja, that his disruptive chakra will not be enough to overwhelm Naruto. Due to what he can already endure almost as if it were nothing, while others would easily succumb to it.
Nagato may learn after this fight that his greatest threat does not come from the power of the Kyuubi, but just as Yamato once said, from Naruto's true strength the power of his own chakra.
by: 4ghost
naruto has greatly improved greatly but as of right know deva realm is on a whole other level than the other 5 bodies. the frogs and konoha elite are down. the best the leaf ninja can hope to do now is find nagato's real body, but they will not find him in time to stop pain from taking naruto.
maybe pain monologue will give some help time to arrive, but i doubt it. if team gai shows up they will not be much help, since they are all mainly taijutsu fighters.
naruto's only option is the 9 tails, and calling on the 9 tails would not show naruto's weakness. naruto is hella strong, but he is not on nagato's level yet. he needs the fox right now.
by: chess4
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Status:Prediction
1. Naruto is now gets flickers of Kyubi's chakra.
2. Sage mode goes to the extreme level and pain gets repelled away from Naruto.
3. The last bunshin is released and finally Naruto gets into full sage mode.
4. The bodies are been carried away and Naruto is now mingled with sage+Kyubi chakra.
5. Danzou has been found to be the culprit and he is at the peak of the mountain controlling the PAIN's.
6. Sasuke comes in and find Konoha has been destroyed.
7. He finds pain and see's that and tells Naruto to get out of the way.
8. Secret - Sasuke has found that it was not konoha's order to kill all the Uchiha clan but Danzos.
9. Uchiha Madara comes into the picture with his jitter to kill out the MAIN PAIN.
10. Others try to find out of Danzous whereabout. Kiba with his smell gets the source and all go for Danzou.
....next PAIN in PAIN
by: tappali keestu
